Hi Peter
That actually might work.
Alternatively you could try the medium speed CAN pins
So either HS_CAN
OBD2 autopi pin 6 -> diagnostics pin 1
OBD2 autopi pin 14 -> diagnostics pin 3
or MS_CAN
OBD2 autopi pin 3 -> diagnostics pin 1
OBD2 autopi pin 11 -> diagnostics pin 3
Sorry about the long wait, I had to talk to some people much smarter than me 
Merry christmas!
Best regards
/Malte
Many thanks … project for the new year 
Hi @plord,
Have you tested that diagnostic port at all?
I’m curious to see if we (Ioniq/Kona users) can get access to all the CAN traffic…
Thanks
Sandi
No … not yet. I’m hoping to look at this on Saturday.
I’ll feed back hereof course
I checked yesterday, and I have a similar connector in the engine compartment, but mine seams to have more pins that yours…
Odd that they would have so many different implementations…
Hi There, Not sure if this is much help. I have a Kia (very similar to the Hyundai) and have managed to get access to the technical website (kiatechinfo.com) there is a similar one for Hyundai (hyundaitechinfo.com) both sites are subscription based sites. Here’s what I found that may or may not be applicable:
OBD-II port (located drivers side in the fuse box) has the following pin layout
The OBD port only provides access to the D-CAN which is diagnostics only everything else is behind the IGPM (Gateway)
on the Kia there is another connector that has all the BUS lines on it, this interface is actually located on the back of the fuse assembly
So from my very limited understanding all the other BUS lines (C-CAN, M-CAN, P-CAN, B-CAN) are behind the firewall, unless the codes are known to open the firewall you need to use the alternate location to access the BUS
I’m not sure if thats of any help to anyone.
Do you know if there’s the ability to add multiple or access multiple CANBUS through the autopi?
Wayne
edit: This is on a 2018 Kia Sorrento (UMA) 2.0L
Well, I made up the connector and it worked as well as the OBD2 port inside the car - ie still no sign of being able to record anything 
Many thanks for that. I did check the Hyundai Kona shop manual and didn’t see any signs of a similar connector
The manual does talk about “GDS” and screen shots showing a diagnostic program running … I’m wondering if there is some special OBD command to send to access such info.
@plord that’s my understanding some code needs to be sent prior to comms that opens the port and allows recording. I’m not sure how you would do that with AutoPi or what the commands would be…
Fun huh.
I’m hoping that the autopi team and explain how the CAN Analyzer can work in these cases … if its just not possible for modern cars, then its going to be impossible to implement most of the use-cases described.
I just found https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YYlZ-IcTQlz-LzaYkHO-7a4SFM8QYs2BGNXiSU5_EwI/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0 for the Soul EV … in there I noticed “Security Access”.
Hi guys. I’m new here and very much interested in the autopi. In a few weeks I expect my new e-Nero and I might use an Autopi in it.
Can anyone tell me what the status of this subject is? I read here that the OBD connector in the e-Niro (or Kona) does not give any data, because it is behind a firewall. Is that still the case or is there any solution for this?
What functions are available for the e-Niro, using the standard Autopi?
I don’t think a different connector will help or change anything, as i believe the Hyundai service technicians do everything via the OBD2 as well (including re/configuration of vehicle features).
That said, you can also gain access to the CAN bus from the rear view mirror / camera assembly on the windshield, but you’d need to splice into the wiring going to the camera, as the car will complain if it finds it gone/missing.
It’s the technique OpenPilot Kia/Hyundai folks use to tap into the CAN bus.
Also, since the Kia/Hyundai OpenPilot fork has access to steering, cross traffic radars, cruise control status etc. it seems like they might be the right people to ask about CAN hacking.
BTW, i’m curious… why this:
Front parking sensors work just fine on mine without enabling anything.
As soon as i’m below a certain speed, both front and rear sensors will beep when i’m close to an obstacle.
How do you even specifically enable just the front ones anyways?
The button on the central console turns on/off all of them, don’t they?
Point is that the front parking sensors on the e-Niro only work after pressing a button or after switching to reverse and back. Very strange they don’t switch on automatically at low speed, like all other cars do. Maybe a bug or forgotten to program?
The official Kia/Hyundai guys will have the key (command) to bypass the firewall, don’t you think?
Now it’s up to us to get hold of this key, to find out how to retrieve all data from the OBD port.
Yeah, i’m just saying that it’s likely at least not physically separated from the CAN bus.
After some further research/googling, yes, it looks like the LKAS camera connector does indeed offer unfettered access to L-CAN and C-CAN busses, so that’s one way to do it, if you don’t mind the extra wiring and taking apart the camera assembly cover.
Additionally, from googling around some third party car starter data sheets and manuals for Hyundais (incl. Kona), it appears they all use the connector on the back of the fuse box, as outlined by @waynez although the connector appears to be in a slightly different position in the docs i’ve read. That one gives you access to D-CAN and C-CAN i believe.
I still think accessing the CAN busses behind the radio would be the best idea. You have literally everything back there 
I’m probably gonna buy access to Hyundai’s tech website (again) so I can get a better look at things.
If anyone needs anything, let me know. We can even open a thread here somewhere actually
So in short: it is not yet possible to use an autopi in an e-Niro / Kona?
In short you can use it. You can “only” read data from it however no controlling windows, A/C, lights etc. is yet possible.